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« on: 07 September, 2008, 10:57:02 AM »

My heritage is one part Jewish and three parts Scottish, so this is a subject dear to my miserable little heart.   Printers are so cheap as to be almost disposable with each set of cartridges, however for those who do a lot of printing, it is the cost of cartridges that breaks the bank.

Recently I was asked to help a well known 92 year old Jamestown identity with the printing of a book. During the printing of the Proof Copy his printer ran out of ink. (Yes,... he has his own computer and uses it every day). It was at this stage that we learned that a set of original manufacturers cartridges  would cost $93 and the cheapest after market replacements about $60. The cartridges are larger than normal, (20 ml) but still it was going to be a very expensive ongoing exercise for a pensioner of limited means.

This started my quest for cheap reliable printing.

With many of us getting into digital photography, we find that it would be nice to print copies of our photos to send to auntie Ivy or perhaps visiting friends. There are many reasonably cheap services available from Chemist shops, Supermarkets and photographic printing shops these days, generally these cost from 10 cents on special to 50 cents per print and this is very good value, however it is not always available and sometimes inconvenient, so I set about to find the cheapest possible setup for home use. I'm heavily into Genealogy (Family Trees) and a copy of just one branch of my family takes more than a ream of paper. I don't often have to print it out, but often find myself posting off 80-100 pages to this one, and that, so printing is high on my list of priorities.

This was done 12 months or more ago so there may be slight changes in he prices, but I have no doubt that it is still close to the mark.

(1) Buy a lower end priced printer that uses cartridges that do NOT have the print heads attached. (About $110)
(2) Check on somewhere like Ebay to see if there is an after market CISS* unit available, *CISS"= Continuous Ink Supply System.

I ended up buying an Epson C87Plus for $117 and a CISS off Ebay for $58 delivered to my door. The CISS came pre loaded with 60ml of each colour of Ink, which equates to 6 sets of 4 Cartridges or 24 individual cartridges that would have cost from $13 to $22 each. (Most cartridges hold approximately 10mls of ink) Or a total of $312 - $528. At this stage we can start to see the advantages.

Here's what the CISS looks like when fitted to the printer.



Then,.. should you wish to have spare ink on hand, you must locate a cheap supply of Bulk ink. I found a seller who sells ink for $11.50 per 100ml  (10 regular cartridges worth, or $30 for 500ml.  At this price, the cost would work out to $0.60 per regular cartridge, which would otherwise cost you $13-$22.

Another advantage, especially for anyone who does long print runs, is that the reservoirs on the CISS may be filled without stopping the printer. They are merely tipped onto their back, the silicone rubber filling caps removed one at a time and the ink transferred to the reservoir with a large syringe and needle. I bought four 35ml syringes and 12gauge canulas (Big thick needles) from the local Veterinary Clinic for $5. Actually he didn't know what to charge me and I said , "How about $5"?  We both went away happy.  I then took the canulas back home where I carefully ground the points off them to avoid the possibility of giving myself a monster tattoo.

WARNING,
Always be very careful handling loaded syringes, accidental injection could be fatal.

Printer ink may contain things like ethylene glycol and/or isopropyl alcohol, which would do you no good at all, not to mention that it would hurt like hell and leave your body with a nasty tattoo that wouldn't impress the girls at the beach very much.
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« Reply #1 on: 07 September, 2008, 01:08:08 PM »

This looks awfully complicated to me... I'm hopeless when it comes to printers.  :'(

I have found a way to save some $$$...I go to "Cartridge World",and it costs me roughly half the price to get ink refills, than going to buy brand new ones.
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« Reply #2 on: 07 September, 2008, 02:07:36 PM »

It's as simple as changing a set of cartridges. Only the cartridges have tubes coming out of them which are attached to the reservoirs which are placed alongside the printer. A small plastic "keeper" holds the tubes from getting tangled in your printer as the cartridge carrier goes back and forth.

It is really best suited to those who use quite a bit of ink though.
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« Reply #3 on: 07 September, 2008, 09:56:03 PM »

Seen continuous ink supplies at Inkjet City http://www.inkjetcity.com.au/InkAndToner.html. Haven't been game to try them on my Epson RX510 (a few years old but works perfectly).  Seems to me any printer Manufacturer will sell you their printers at below cost 'cause they know the first time you buy replacement cartridges they make a huge profit!  Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: 07 September, 2008, 10:10:27 PM »

That's how it appears to me, I can't see how they would make any profit at the price they charge for the printers. But of course, we usually make our printers last quite a while, whereas cartridges need to be replaced with monotonous regularity.

The worst part was reading things like, "all cartridges stop printing when they still contain 5-10% of their ink" to avoid your printer burning out the heaters in the print head should they run dry. In an effort to use every drop of ink I used to keep going as long as I could, which often meant the printer would stop printing in the middle of an A4 sized colour print of dear old uncle Bert or some such. So ruining a sheet of photo paper as well.

Regarding the CISS at Inkjet City,  Rihac are a very good brand and are assembled here in Australia (from Chinese parts no doubt) but at least you have an Australian Company to deal with.
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« Reply #5 on: 26 February, 2009, 05:47:03 PM »

Several days ago I was alerted to a potentially serious problem with these Continuous Ink Supply Systems.

If perchance you lift the ink reservoirs above the printer for any reason, you may well start a siphon, which will slowly but surely drain the ink from your reservoirs into the bottom of your printer. Not only is this expensive, but it also has the potential to be very very messy.

In the bottom of most printers is a large thick felt pad, designed to soak up the ink that is used whenever your printer does a cleaning cycle. Under normal use this will never fill up, as the ink dries faster than it accumulates.  However, in the case of one or more 100ml reservoirs siphoning out there is a good chance that a great deal of liquid ink will accumulate in the bottom of the printer.

Now remember, you are already having problems with your ink seemingly disappearing, what's the first thing most of us are tempted to do?.... Yes,.. we pick up the printer. Now,.... if it has not already over flowed, there is a very good chance that as soon as you pick it up the excess ink will slosh out of  the bottom tray of the printer all over you and the carpet below.  Be warned!

Re priming the CISS is a whole new story, as once the ink has siphoned out of the reservoir and ink tank above the print head you will have an airlock in the system. Buy some surgical gloves before you go any further, or no matter how careful you are, you will end up with multi coloured hands.

Ask me how I know...

Oh,... and just to wipe the smirks of your faces, No, it was not my printer, and I didn't spill any ink. (I did that last time)Grin I will admit that I did spread a lot of Newspapers around the worksite before I started though.  Thankfully they were not needed.

So, I can tell you how to successfully remove ink stains from a lounge chair and carpet.  She will never read this so I can  say it. "A pair of industrial grade ear muffs firmly clamped over your ears will be a great help". The blood stains were a lot harder to get rid of than the ink
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« Reply #6 on: 26 February, 2009, 07:36:17 PM »

Praps this is why laser printers were invented?Huh?
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« Reply #7 on: 26 February, 2009, 09:13:41 PM »

Oh, nooo, if lasers leak, they will toast your wobbly bits, send you blind and burn bloody great holes in the carpet.
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« Reply #8 on: 27 February, 2009, 09:08:52 AM »

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As Pauline Hanson said,"Please explain"HuhHuh?
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« Reply #9 on: 27 February, 2009, 10:41:42 AM »

Ray
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As Pauline Hanson said,"Please explain"HuhHuh?
Well,.. for me, my very ample gut. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: 04 March, 2009, 07:25:13 PM »

Duzz not wobble.
Must be something else that wobbles?Huh
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